A New Grim Sleeper Suspect?

john-floyd-thomas-jrUntil his April 2 arrest, John Floyd Thomas Jr was a Los Angeles insurance adjuster. Police now call him the “Southland Strangler” — named for the geographical section of Los Angeles County where they suspect he killed at least 30 women and raped many more. Thomas is also in the frame for a spate of crimes police say were committed by the “Westside Rapist”.

On first glance this suspect doesn’t fit the profile of the Grim Sleeper. Reports suggest he targets much older females who live alone and are white. This is a direct opposite of the Grim Sleeper’s known victims - young and black. However there are some striking similarities that are worth mentioning.

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Many of Thomas’ victims were strangled and beaten and at least one victim was killed in a location other than her home which suggests Thomas’ MO is markedly varied. The LA times is quoted as saying “On the 17 who were killed, he placed pillows or blankets over their faces.” This is also a signature of the Grim Sleeper  who is known to have placed items over the faces of some of his victims.

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Perhaps one of the most startling similarities is the time span and ‘gaps’ that separate Thomas’ crimes.  The first wave of slayings took place in  Los Angeles in the mid-1970s. There followed a decade of  ‘Sleep?’  until 1983 when Thomas was released from prison. He committed rape and murder over the next 6 years until 1989. The Los Angeles Times in its article goes on “…the last in this cycle of killings occurred [until] 1989. [Police] are not sure why the perpetrator stopped. That year, Thomas took a job in the state workers’ compensation agency in Glendale.” Coincidentally 1989 was also the year that the Grim Sleeper ceased killing for another decade! Did the Grim Sleeper get himself a job settling insurance claims?

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Also coincidentally, Thomas’ apartment near South La Brea Ave & Rodio Road is  located only 3 miles west of the Grim Sleeper murder locations (was Pat Brown a few miles off?). To the north is Thomas’ high school (Manual Arts Senior) and between these two points Grim Sleeper’s victim’s 2 and 8 were found.

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His Mugshots are also interesting. He certainly looks younger than his 72 years (bottom right shot). In his earlier mugshots he looks preppy and neat with a passing resemblance to the actor Samuel Jackson.

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Los Angeles police Chief Beck said “His victims were selected to make it more difficult to get information from them. He picked on the most vulnerable prey in society.” Authorities are looking into at least 25 other killings they suspect might be linked to Thomas. Could they also be considering Thomas as the Grim Sleeper?

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It is not beyond the realms of credibility to make some solid links between the crimes attributed to Thomas and those of the Grim Sleeper. Of course Thomas’ alleged victims were elderly white women but those are just the ones that police have reported. If what they say is true and Thomas is found to be LA’s biggest Serial killer then within the list of victims may contain the names of Deborah Jackson, Mary Lowe, Thomas Steele, etc. etc…

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Further reading:

LATimes

CNN

Murcury News

LAPD News Release (with location map)

N.B. Regarding the map (see LAPD link above) is it too much to believe that TWO Serial Killers have been operating in the exact same location over a 20 year period, independent of each other? Both now elderly, both prone to cover their victims faces, both black…? Put it another way, what are the odds of finding TWO black serial killers, both over the age of 50, and both using markedly similar MOs living, working and operating within 3 miles of each other - without the other knowing? We ask again what are the odds?


5 Responses to “A New Grim Sleeper Suspect?”

  • 1 Emerald Says:

    Does his DNA match the DNA recovered from the Grim Sleeper victims? I thought the Westside rapist and Grim Sleeper were different attackers? I wonder if ‘Enietra’ Margette has seen this man’s picture and can confirm this may be her attacker?

  • 2 carbuff Says:

    A great deal of the evidence certainly seems to point to a link, I have the same reservation as Emerald — since they’ve been doing a serious DNA search for the Grim Sleeper and checked against the same DNA database that fingered Thomas in these murders, you would think the connection would have showed up before now.

  • 3 pdr Says:

    I would be surprised if he’s the GS. He’s been in prison, so would (presumably) have come up in the familial DNA testing. His earliest photos, at least to me, do not seem particularly geeky or preppy, and he’s not wearing eyeglasses. He’s sporting a mustache as well. Margette described her attacker as ‘clean shaven’. Probably does not have an accent either. I say no.

  • 4 pdr Says:

    One more discrepancy. Several reported GS had a pockmarked complexion. He could have gotten those from chickenpox, or from severe acne. I’ve zoomed in on Thomas’ younger photo, and I’m just not seeing any pockmarks, or at least anything that stands out. Too many of these details are not matching up to what we know about GS.

  • 5 Justin Says:

    The sole survivor (Ms. Margette) described the Grim Sleeper as being in his early 30s when she encountered him in 1988. This man (John Thomas) does not look “geeky” or “preppy” at all and his rapes and attacks on women did not take place in South-Central L.A. or Inglewood but in Beverly Hills and West L.A. Yes, anything is possible but I seriously doubt that John Thomas is the Grim Sleeper.

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